Battlefield: Bad Company 2 - PC Full Release Awesomness

[Landy]

A game I've been drooling over for the last year, is Battlefield: Bad Company 2. The PS3 beta ended just less then a month ago. Starting the 28th of January, you'll be able to play the PC beta if you pre-ordered the Limited Edition or was lucky enough to get it through other sources.

More info here: http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2010/01/07/bfbc2-pc-beta-update-fr-229-n-dice.aspx

Info about the Limited Edition and how to get it: http://www.battlefieldbadcompany2.com/#/reserve-limited-edition

I seriously can't wait for this game.

[Konrad]

I really could not care less about this game. Which is strange, because I dedicated MANY long hours to Battlefield 2, and not too few to Battlefield 2142. The main turnoff is 32 player servers. I was expecting the battlefield series to go UP in size, not down. And while smaller servers work in games with small maps like MW2, I don't see it happening in Battlefield. One of the largest appeals of BF2 for me was the fact that many things were happening at once on the battlefield, rather than a single large conflict.

Considering that they're implementing "huge maps" and small servers it sounds like half the time will be spent running to battle, something that was a large issue in BF2.


I dunno. EA has been messing around with the Battlefield franchise for a while now. First it was the 2142 "mod", then a console exclusive spinoff with tiny servers, then a cartoon version, then an online only remake of 1942 which includes only three (?) maps. I don't see Bad Company 2 to be a far cry from this pattern.

What I look forward to is a huge game in the scope of BF2 and 1942, fixed and updated to modern standards. A Battlefield 3.


Perhaps there is some major aspect of Bad Company 2 that I'm not aware of to get me excited. Otherwise I really don't think it looks special at all.

[MyNameDidntFit]

1942 with the DC Final mod was... possibly the best MP shooter there is.

It was even good SP if you stacked the bots heavily to the enemy team. Sure, it was nearly impossible, but it made for epic battles (like single-handedly holding Arnhem Bridge for half an hour--until the AI lets you down and you get flanked >.>).


But... I can't say I've really watch the series since the original game. Meh.

[Jason]

I hope the game's good, because I'm getting increasingly fed up with the cheap-ass tactics of Modern Warfare 2, and I'd really like to get a game in where I can walk three steps without getting gunned down by a Harrier/Cobra/Pave Low/AC130/Ford Cortina drive-by.
However, as Konrad pointed out, the size of the servers I think is going to kill this one, plus they've implemented the dreaded 'class' system. You know, the one on some servers in TF2 where it only allows so many people to play as Spies and Snipers. In theory, it's a great idea, making for balanced and tactical games. In reality, you get one player who hogs the sniper class like it's his own, and almost everyone else bitches because they didn't get to play as their favourite class.

Seriously, you'd think game developers would know this kind of thing by now - the rest of the game-playing world has been picking up on it for years - I'm sure they must play games.

[Rob]

I would like to see 64 player server but I think 32 could work. In large BF2 servers I spent most of my time standing around waiting for a vehicle while one or two people would spawn and then drive off in 4+ seaters on their own. Less people could mean less time spent hunting for vehicles to get across maps and into the fight. I had some really intense and fun large scale battles in BF2 but smaller groups can end up creating tighter groups that work together better instead of mass chaos.

The class system is something that I think is necessary in this genre. BF can't work as a team based shooter without a class limit. I assume that their aim is to attract players that are focusing more on the larger objectives and the best way to achieve them. I like being able to play sniper/medic but I can appreciate playing other classes to help fill out the team. It forces me to experience more of the game then I would if there were no restrictions.

[Landy]

Then you have the mode "Squad Rush" which i think mostly will be played by competitive players (like myself), which is simply 4vs4 based around an objective. One team needs to stop the other team from getting to the objective.

[Rob]

4v4 is cool but some people are so good that they can easily carry a 4 person team on their own. The larger groups tend to balance better and allow for more crazy turnarounds and longer games. Sometimes the teams will get stacked no matter what but maybe I get lucky because I don't get into those games all that often. When I do its all that more rewarding to help a team bounce back. 4 words - Get to the choppa!

......

I looked into this game a bit more and I will have to find a way to get it. The Squad Rush video made me drool a bit. CKS are you getting this on PC? I will be...

just realized where I was at... of course your are getting it on pc.

[MyNameDidntFit]

Doing a bit of looking myself... this is intriguing me.

Are you in on the Beta, CKS? Or just bearing the news of it? If you are, I demand a full report when you get to play :p

[Landy]

4v4 is cool but some people are so good that they can easily carry a 4 person team on their own. The larger groups tend to balance better and allow for more crazy turnarounds and longer games. Sometimes the teams will get stacked no matter what but maybe I get lucky because I don't get into those games all that often. When I do its all that more rewarding to help a team bounce back. 4 words - Get to the choppa!

......

I looked into this game a bit more and I will have to find a way to get it. The Squad Rush video made me drool a bit. CKS are you getting this on PC? I will be...

just realized where I was at... of course your are getting it on pc.

Hehe, I've already got the game pre-ordered on Steam and from another online store (just to be sure i receive at least one beta key)

I'm a fairly competitive FPS gamer, when i find games worth spending a few hours getting good at. From what I've seen and read so far, BFBC2 will be the game for that. Got a few online friends which I've known for years and which have played in top teams around the world. Will prob be attending in a tournament or two, somewhere down the line.

I love the larger battles with more then 8 players, but sadly those do tend to be played less by competitive clans and teams, then the smaller 5v5, 4v4 etc.

Doing a bit of looking myself... this is intriguing me.

Are you in on the Beta, CKS? Or just bearing the news of it? If you are, I demand a full report when you get to play :p

Yep, will be playing the beta by tomorrow afternoon, presuming that Steam doesn't lock out or gives everyone a 2Kb/s download.

Oh yeah, full report and screenshots will follow, unless DICE has a NDA stating otherwise.

[Rob]

I couldn't help myself and put this on the credit card. Waiting for beta access which should have been available @ 9am PST. I woke up early and it's 10:45am with no beta access in steam. The BF:BC2 website is not even loading right now. I'm sure its getting hammered. I can't wait to get back into BF ever since BF2. I spent hundreds of hours on that game and now with BC2 it looks like i'll be doing the same.

CKS have you got beta access yet? It's unclear how we are going to get access through steam and if keys will be emailed.

The BF:BC2 beta is available on steam with preorder of the full game. I'm dl it now and I will definitely have some impressions either tonight or tomorrow morning.

770 KB/s ... I need more bandwidth! ;)

[Jason]

770KB/s?! Between 6pm and 9pm, I'm lucky to get 30KB/s!

[Konrad]

Arg. I just missed the beta by a hair. My cousin told me he just regiestered at Fileplay.net for the key, so I decided to try it too, but by the time I got my confirmation email they were out of keys.

It's a shame too, since I won't buy this game blindly. A demo was the only chance they had with me.

[Landy]

You can always pre-order the game on steam, try the beta and the cancel your order if you wouldn't happen to like it. On the other hand, if u own a xbox360 a bf:bc2 demo is now available on xbox market place or whatever it's called.

@Rob: The beta is currently so bugged, i can't even get on any servers. A lot of people are reporting the same problems. Hopefully, we'll see a fix for it soon.

Edit: Try this link Konrad: http://www.battlefieldbadcompany2.com/beta

[Konrad]

Huh. Tried it, we'll see, though I swear I already signed up once. :\

[Rob]

I only got to play a few hours earlier and it's a good thing it has some more time in BETA. It's buggy and although I was able to join I had problems with lag and locating a server. I ended up on a UK server. Of course all that is to be expected because they were all getting hammered with players. It's going to rock once they put some time into the code and get the right amount of server bandwidth setup. The guns look/feel/sound good so far. Hopefully things have settled down a bit because I am about to hop back into a few games.

Jason 30KB/s? That's a bummer. Comcast Cable does 12Mb/2Mb no commitment lines right now for $20/month for one year. With the new DOCsis 3.0 they are doing a trial run of 50Mb/??Mb for $150 very soon in this area.

[Jason]

Yeah, the problem with the UK is that our broadband infrastructure is awful. We're not even in an especially remote area (halfway between two medium-large towns), but the very best we can get is 1.5Mb downstream. Unfortunately at peak hours the ISP throttles the bandwidth because of the sheer number of users which means that any downloading has to wait until later. :-/

[Konrad]

I got me a Key from my cousin who registered two just in case. Case happened. I have yet to download and install the game though.

[Rob]

I played for the last couple hours and i'm glad I bought it. At first I was getting shot over and over :( It took me awhile to settle in on a class that I work best at and I ended up playing medic. First place overall in my last 16v16 match and 21 badges! I ended it on a high note and logged off after that performance.

There are a pretty large number of unlocks to get so I will be playing this for a long time to come. UAV's are a blast to use and if you want to you can sit over the battlefield for most of the match assuming the teams are in a stalemate. It feels like it takes longer to repair armor so I couldn't use a tank to destroy an entire team. Good balance overall and at no time did anyone one person have control of an area on the map for too long. I love the BF series and this game is a great recreation of an already solid formula.

[Jason]

Anyone got a spare beta key for this they can chuck me? I absolutely deplore begging, but I'm torn between getting this for PS3 or PC - PC is my preference, so I can play with you guys, but my PC *just* scrapes the minimum requirements, and I want to know whether it's going to be even worth playing before handing over my hard-earned.

[Landy]

I would recommend you get it for the PS3 instead, if you're meeting the min requirements on a laptop. Highly likely you won't be able to get much out of the game playing it on a laptop.

[Jason]

Yeah, that's why I'm trying to get hold of the beta to see what performance is like so I can make an informed decision.

[Rob]

Unfortunately I don't have an extra beta key. Have you signed up over at...
http://badcompany2.ea.com/beta

[Konrad]

I had a spare so I gave it to sir Jason.

[Jason]

Downloading as we speak. Give it a couple of hours and I'll know whether I'll be joining you all on PC or whether it's a lonely PS3 experience for me.

[Rob]

I have a few friends that might jump on the PS3 version also. I would hate to buy the same game twice but I am rolling the idea around if enough people get it.

[Konrad]

Ill most likely be buying it, so +1 on that. Playing this game in squads and voip is uber fun.

[Konrad]

BAMP!

Just so you all know, this little gem popped up in our secret RSS feed:

Barnes & Noble has the PC version of Battlefield: Bad Company 2 listed for pre-order at $19.95, but it appears that this actually covers the entire game. It's unclear whether this is a mistake or not on the retailer's part, but if you plan on getting Bad Company 2, you should definitely go ahead and buy this in the event that they do honor it. The game normally retails for $50.

I just tried it, got my receipt and everything so it looks like a mistake that will cost them. 20$ (25 with shipping and tax) is still a crazy good price for the game. And if they don't honor it, oh well. It's a shame it's not on Steam, also it's not listed as "limited edition" but for 50% off ill suck it up.

[Rob]

I already messaged 3 of my friends about that deal Konrad. You win.

[Konrad]

Glad I could help. I hope this doesn't get too loud though... The more negligible their losses, the more likely they are to honor the deal.

[Rob]

Bad news... Bad Company 2 is getting paid DLC on the first day. Include it in the FN retail purchase or lump it into a worthwhile xpac. I hate knowing that there are features of the game that are complete but not included. I understand adding DLC at a later time because they simply could not fit it into the initial release due to time constraints but this is just BS. Oh well I expect nothing less from EA.

[Konrad]

Wow... That blows some chunky chunks. I'm really not one to say this about most game developers because I KNOW they need to make money, but seriously? If you've got part of your game you finished right before release, give it to us for free. If you've made part of the game but won't hand it over without an extra fee, that's a low blow.

I can't exactly find any information on this, so I don't know what the DLC will be. But if paid content will be any part of Multiplayer I'm going to have to seriously reconsider this purchase. I bit with BF2 when they released the Spec Ops pack, fine I said, I want to play the game withe everyone else - but I skipped out on the remaining two expansions.

There are only two possible results coming out of this: 1) They split the playerbase. 2) They give an advantage to players who pay extra.

Neither one appeals to me.

[MyNameDidntFit]

2) is no different to the current advantage given to players who've been in the game longer. So if some people having an advantage makes you reconsider your purchase: reconsider now.

[Konrad]

Wha- You sure have a thing for astounding me with outrageous statements. It's completely different. What you're describing in an inherent part of any game's design... Hell, it's how we as human beings work. It's to be expected that experience = advantage. It's this that makes gaming fun. It's why we like RPGs, because they accentuate our natural progression.

One of the most basic rules of game design is that you start everybody off under the same conditions and you create an even playing field. The same reason why you don't give one player in a game of monopoly a ton of cash is the reason you don't give some players better equipment in a video game.

Paid ubercontent =/= Even playing field
Uneven playing field = broken game

No matter how hardcore you are.

Besides, they tried it with Battlefield: Heroes and lost a huge chunk of their community. And it's a free game.

[MyNameDidntFit]

You have a thing for misunderstanding me. Surely you've noticed that better weapons and equipment become available as you play BC2? Yes, that is what I'm talking about.

Sure, they didn't start with those advantages, but what difference does that make for someone coming into the game? None. They're still faced with a bunch of better equipped players.

[Konrad]

Looks like I do. Maybe you should stop mumbling so much and accentuate your syllables.

Still, there is a difference between starting everyone off with nothing and giving everyone upgrades as they progress.

When you start giving people tools that are accessible to others though, you start unbalancing your game. Unless of course, they're weapons that are specialized in something, rather than overall more powerful guns or jetpacks or some shit.

[Rob]

So is anyone else still playing the beta? I have not played in about a week because I got busy and because there is really nothing more for me to gain by playing the beta before the full game is released. I don't want to burn myself out.

[Konrad]

Same here pretty much. I got to level 11 with all the unlocks and I'm really quite tired of the same map. Plus like you said, if I play this thing too much I'm going to get sick by the time the full thing is released :p

[MyNameDidntFit]

I'm playing it sporadically. Seems the best way to play it when there's so little variety for the moment.

[Rob]

On Amazon right now... CONSOLE ONLY :(

Pre-order Battlefield: Bad Company 2 Limited Edition, for PS3 or Xbox 360, and get $20 off a future video game purchase. The promotional code will be placed directly into your Amazon.com account within 2 business days after the product ships. Offer valid when shipped and sold by Amazon.com. Promotion valid on all existing pre-orders. Limit one per household. Amazon reserves the right to change or terminate this promotion at any time.

If you have not ordered the game and planned on doing it anyways then get yourself $20 of your next game. Amazon is where all the cool kids shop anyways. I wonder why they didn't allow PC in on the fun...

I guess I spoke too soon about the Battlefield:BC2 DLC (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/battlefieldbadcompany2/news.html?sid=6252472).

EA announced that when Bad Company 2 launches for the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and PC on March 2, wargamers will be have access to two original multiplayer maps free of charge, with two more online arenas to deploy later in the month.

This is good news as I was about to go cry in the corner of my shower. It's going to be ok... its going to be ok.

And if that's not enough to keep you interested in the game then check out the Monday HourOne special @ Gametrailers (http://www.gametrailers.com/hour-one/battlefield-bad-company-2/). There is going to be exclusive video and developer commentary with live chat/twitter going on. Daddy likes.

[MyNameDidntFit]

I think I'll be too busy trying to play the game to listen/watch that... :/

[Konrad]

So the game is live now. I decided not hold out on buying it after the unfortunate DLC news and my 20$ border's order being cancelled. I'd love to hear how it compares to the Beta, from those who own it.

[MyNameDidntFit]

It goes live down under tomorrow -- it's preloading as I type. So, if rob doesn't beat me in with his dastardly USness, I'll probably give an opinion tomorrow.

[Rob]

I have it installed but my son dictates all my free time now so I could only play the campaign :) I'm unimpressed with the campaign so far and it feels and looks a bit sloppy to me. BUT I didn't buy the game for the single player and I knew it would be tossed aside. I'm hoping to get into the multiplayer game tomorrow night. I can't imagine it being anything but massive fun considering the extra game modes and maps as well as full access to start climbing the level/unlock trees. Ill let you know once I get into it.

[Konrad]

So, I heard somebody hear somebody think they heard somebody say that Battlefield 3 is already being planned for release, perhaps even this year. This most likely means BC2 mechanics applied one the well-known Battlefield scale, none of this 32 player silliness, and also JETS.

Again, complete hearsay... but if it's even a bit true I think I can already hear hordes of fans raging at EA over it. xD

[Rob]

If that happens i'll.... i'll b.b.b.b.burn the building down.

[MyNameDidntFit]

I won't care.

I've been playing this for the last few hours and only stopped because my net d/c'd for a second or two. It's just so damn fun. The level of immersion is better than any game I've played -- SP or otherwise -- and I actually feel like it's a war. It's not a bunch of guys running around; it's a fucking battlefield. I never felt that even in the classic style BF games with so many people running around.

Somehow, they've managed to make 32 people fill the battlefield and make it awesome in every way. Basically: I'm in love. The deep kind of love that makes your breathing go shallow, your stomach flitter and your eyes take on a glossy kind of sheen...

The SP is... average. I played the first two missions and it seems to basically be your standard SP package for today's games. It's smooth and fun, but nothing special.

[Rob]

Right that just makes me want to stay up all night and play. Bah tomorrow morning... I can't wait. Which map/mode should I tackle first? I'll probably be leveling medic first.

[MyNameDidntFit]

I can't really say which mode to play first, I only played Conquest this afternoon and the server rotated through three or four maps which I didn't pay attention to the names of.

Conquest is the classic BF game mode we all know with points to capture and hold to reduce the enemy's tickets. It plays brilliantly in BC2. One of my games on a map called 'White Pass' ended up with my team winning with literally 2 tickets remaining.

[Konrad]

So MNDF. This feeling of intensity and immersion you're having. Is this a continuation of your beta experience, or a fresh thing discovered in the full game?

[MyNameDidntFit]

The Beta wasn't as intense as my experience so far in the full release, but that may be down to the game mode as I haven't played Rush (the Beta's game mode) in the full release as I figured I'd try something I hadn't been playing for the last month :p

Going out on a limb though, the full release feels much nicer than the Beta. Not in any way I can describe or point a stick at, but it's just smooth, polished and engraved with initials in a fancy looping font.

All I can say is that, whether or not a 'full-scale' Battlefield game is release this year, I'm damn happy with BC2 and am definitely of the opinion that it's worth the money (though, anyone not Australian may find $70 a bit steep for any PC game :p).

[Jason]

BFBC2 multiplayer is a little bit screwy right now. Not only was Steam down for half the night, but players are apparently experiencing random disconnects for no apparent reason, and good old Punkbuster is either kicking or not even letting people into the game. But it's ok, because EA is "aware" of the problem. :rolleyes:

[MyNameDidntFit]

Well, Steam isn't exactly BC2's problem :/

I haven't experienced any random disconnects and, from what I gather, it's an issue contained to a minority.

[Rob]

I haven't had any problems either. All I have had is massive fun leveling my medic and unlocking new weapons/kits. The balance of these maps is very well thought out and every battle so far has been intense and hard fought. Mmm I think I'm going to make a sandwhich and sit down for a bit with BC2 and get to know it better.

[Rob]

Bah I jinxed myself. I can't login to EAonline.

[Konrad]

Boop. I caved.

[Jason]

I'm fighting this so hard. I'm just lucky I don't have a PC capable of running it at an acceptable level, otherwise the temptation of playing with you guys may have beaten me.

I actually picked the game up in Tesco yesterday, but managed to convince myself to put it back on the shelf.

[Konrad]

Oh for shame, I can just imagine the games we would have!

[Rob]

Just in case it hasn't been said enough already..........

THIS
GAME
ROCKS

[MyNameDidntFit]

It really does. It really, really does.

[Jason]

Shut up, both of you. :upset:

[Konrad]

If it makes you feel better, i've only been able to play it for about fifteen minutes so far thanks to the epicness of EA servers.

[Rob]

Shut up, both of you. :upset:
No Dfib for you! :)

[MyNameDidntFit]

if it makes you feel better, i've only been able to play it for about fifteen minutes so far thanks to the epicness of ea servers.
*FAILURE*







caps.

[Konrad]

Oh yeah? Well, I got to play it after all and it's liek, really good. So much better than the beta. My main issue with the Beta was the really odd movement lag where making me feel like I was sliding around, that's gone now and the game plays great, and looks a ton better.

Those 1-hit kill grenade launchers make me sad when I'm on the receiving end though.

[Jason]

Apparently EA have released server stats for BFBC2, and demand was over 400% more than they expected. Yowch.

[Rob]

Last night I was attempting to play a round with Konrad and I think we both can agree about a few problems with BC2's UI.

- The server browser is a horrible experience right now. It takes awhile to get the list to pull up and when it does you get no ping readout. That leaves you with no way to filter by ping! That wouldn't be a problem if you could filter by location (West/Central/East US, Europe, Australia doesn't count)
- The friends tab is fairly useless. We both sent invites and didn't receive them after 6-12 hours. It also doesn't accurately show who is online/offline.
- Once you get into a game there is no way to quickly pull up the server name/ip so you can invite someone to a game. I suppose this wouldn't be a huge issue if the ^above^ complaint was fixed.
- When you tab during a game to see the scoreboard you get inaccurate ping. Again I had to use my LogiG15 readout to know if a server was going to work for me.

With a little trial and error I was able to get into some good servers last night and even when the teams were stacked against me the game was still a ton of fun. As a medic that gave me a lot more to do and as a sniper I was able to do a lot of damage to the concentrated troops at flag points. I have played medic the most but I am starting to like the sniper class more. It's incredibly fun to get a double headshot on two enemies from across the map using bullet drop. I only wish wind speed played a role horizontally to make it that much more rewarding to pull off a shot. As it is I can pull off some quick and dirty shots from pretty far away and the enemy can't figure out where I am at!

I really enjoy getting unlocks during the round. Seeing pins and levels roll by as you tear through an enemy squad is a good way to keep me interested. For example, I got sniped so once I respawned and worked my way all the way around the map I found 3 snipers, 1 medic, and 1 soldier. I stabbed one after another from the back and they didn't even hear their teammates die. Getting a badge for 5 consecutive knife kills along with their dog tags was a rush.

[MyNameDidntFit]

The friends system is, admittedly, quite useless.

However, when it all comes together it's amazing. We (Konnie, Rob and I) just finished playing for a while together, playing with the three of us in a squad was rather awesome.

And now for a big surprise: I was playing with minimal lag despite being on a US server. Running around with my F2000 and 40mm shotgun attachment I was having no problems killing my fair share of the enemy.



(PS: GOD I LOVE MY SHOTGUN ATTACHMENT.)

[Rob]

I think it was an east coast server... might have been central US. Either way it was awesome to know that pretty much anyone at MG should be able to link up and play this game without lag being too much of a problem. That's pretty huge for a FPS.

[MyNameDidntFit]

Even if it was like a bad joke. A Pole, an American and an Australian walk into a BC2 server...

[Jason]

I hate you all. :upset:

[Jason]

I finally broke. Got it on PS3 though.

[MyNameDidntFit]

Lame. You can't even make our joke about an Aussie, a Pom, a Pole and a Yank walking into a BC2 server...

[Konrad]

Lame. You should have gotten it on the pee cee.

[MyNameDidntFit]

Let's all point and laugh at the freak kid.

[Konrad]

What a loser. Have you seen his teeth?

[Rob]

What were you thinking? All you have to do to play BC2 with us is spend $500+ to build a decent gaming rig and buy the game on steam............. vs $60 on PS3. :) You're missing out. Sell a kidney and you can fix your teeth too!

[Siciliano]

What were you thinking? All you have to do to play BC2 with us is spend $500+ to build a decent gaming rig and buy the game on steam............. vs $60 on PS3. :) You're missing out. Sell a kidney and you can fix your teeth too!

true, unless you already have a gaming computer and dont forget, console gamers will have to buy the map packs whereas the PC gamers get that stuff for free. I think in the long run...console gamers lose. Just my opinion though.

[Konrad]

I have a new crush: 88 Sniper with Red Dot.

It's awesome, because it essentially turns the Scout into an assault class with a high powered rifle. I've been playing on the front line, calling down mortars on my enemies and chucking radar balls while keeping up with all the MG and assault rifle toting classes. Plus, most people don't expect to have to put up a fight when they see a Scout up close.

[MyNameDidntFit]

I always expect a fight when I see Recons, far too many of them tote Saika 12ks for me to ever let my guard down about those bastards.

[Rob]

In case anyone else is as far down the rabbit hole as I am, check out this BC2 sig site so you can let everyone know how good or bad you are at the game.

http://bfbc2.elxx.net/

[MyNameDidntFit]

I'm so deep that Morpheus doesn't even know where I am any more :D

[Rob]

Hmm that sig site only updates once a day.

[MyNameDidntFit]

Quick update: OH MY. MY GRENADE LAUNCHER, HOW I LOVE THEE.

http://bfbc2.elxx.net/images/gadgets_128x32/40mmgl.png http://bfbc2.elxx.net/images/stars_18x18/go.png2
40MM GRENADE


Kills: 102
Headshots: 0
Accuracy: 53%
Time: 1h 41m

[Konrad]

Hah. No headshots. Noob.

[Rob]

That bullshit with the GL is what causes disconnects and server outages... also world hunger. Stop it.

[Lance]

Don't play BC2 myself, but I found this looking around and thought it was amusing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kB9_rvQX70

[MyNameDidntFit]

That bullshit with the GL is what causes disconnects and server outages... also world hunger. Stop it.
Bah. Sniping is so much cheaper. I've moved on to that now that I've fully unlocked assault (<3 my M16A2) and by God it is insanely easy to slaughter people. It's worse than GL'ing by a long shot, I'd say. It's like "Oh, you're across half the map? I DON'T CARE. *headshot*". M29 combined with the M93-R handgun and the lightweight pack just means you obliterate everything at any range :D

[Konrad]

Don't play BC2 myself, but I found this looking around and thought it was amusing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kB9_rvQX70

I'm so going to try this today.

Bah. Sniping is so much cheaper. I've moved on to that now that I've fully unlocked assault (<3 my M16A2) and by God it is insanely easy to slaughter people. It's worse than GL'ing by a long shot, I'd say. It's like "Oh, you're across half the map? I DON'T CARE. *headshot*". M29 combined with the M93-R handgun and the lightweight pack just means you obliterate everything at any range :D

Sir, it is glaringly obvious to me that you have not yet discovered the near 1-hit kill goodness of the M95, or the magical shower of death of the VSS Special, OR the Magnum Ammo

Combined with that semi-automatic pistol... Sir that, is a killing machine.

[MyNameDidntFit]

My M29 is one hit kill. See, I actually aim ;)

And the M9-3R pumps out rounds so fast that you've emptied a clip into any bastard before he's blinked.




(PS: the majority of the pistols are semi-auto...)

[Siciliano]

Quick update: OH MY. MY GRENADE LAUNCHER, HOW I LOVE THEE.

boooooo! I cannot stand the freaking tube. Drives me up a wall!

[Konrad]

(PS: the majority of the pistols are semi-auto...)

Well I meant the one that shots bursts of bullets.

[MyNameDidntFit]

boooooo! I cannot stand the freaking tube. Drives me up a wall!
As I've already said, snipers are far, far, far worse. And I'm saying that as a sniper (at current).

Well I meant the one that shots bursts of bullets.
Yeah, that's the M9-3R that I mentioned :)

[Siciliano]

As I've already said, snipers are far, far, far worse. And I'm saying that as a sniper (at current).


Yeah, that's the M9-3R that I mentioned :)

I agree. Snipers in Hardcore mode are everywhere and I mean EVERYWHERE! its sad really....kills servers as well.

I wouldnt mind seeing EA make server options to not have things like noob tubes or whatever. Not sure we would use them on our clan server but....I guess maybe to know the option is there.

The sniping in this game is out of hand. Sad thing is in Softcore mode....there isnt the problem with the snipers but instead it takes a half of a clip at least to kill someone.

[MyNameDidntFit]

'Softcore' mode makes snipers even worse. Snipers can one-shot anyone they want, but they can't be easily countered by a three-shot burst from an assault rifle.

[Rob]

Have a problem with snipers? Either go sniper yourself and terrorize the enemy until they change their class or do the unthinkable... pop smoke! I literally have not seen one smoke popped in a map. Can you guys honestly say you use that to counter snipers? Snipers are only overpowered when they have a clear line of sight to your skull cap or if I'm the person behind the rifle. Strategy = Win

OP = Grenade Launcher kills from medium range or greater. Snipers are not a problem :)

There seems to be a decent counter to every class in the game. That's why I keep going back to the game even though the maps are beginning to feel small in comparison to BF2.

[MyNameDidntFit]

I don't have a problem with snipers. I have a problem with people complaining that GLs are over-powered with snipers are clearly as bad, or worse.


PS: Rob, man, you really need more dogtags :p

[Siciliano]

PS: Rob, man, you really need more dogtags :p

lol, yes Rob....dog tags looking a little skimpy.

[Rob]

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/9858/capture2ts.jpg (http://img200.imageshack.us/i/capture2ts.jpg/)

I'll start collecting dogtags when the GOL allows it.

[Jason]

I find I get more dogtags from snipers than anyone else. :p

[MyNameDidntFit]

Yes, Rob, the GOL is amazing. It makes me want to change my sexual preferences from "heterosexual" to "sniper rifles".



One thing I've noticed with this game is the amount of discrepancy in the stats... the stats site Rob linked says 88 dogtags, my stats say 105 [unique] and my progress on the Elite Melee Combatant badge says 95 :/

[Siciliano]

you guys like the GOL over the M95?

[MyNameDidntFit]

I haven't used the M95 yet, but with pin-point accuracy, what more could I want?

[Rob]

I haven't unlocked the M95 either, but I see no reason to use it over the GOL in hard core servers. The GOL is a one shot kill and the only drawback is that it can not do damage to vehicles. I imagine that I will only use the M95 on chopper maps.

MNDF I noticed the stats on that sig site I linked don't update accurately so I'm going to look for another one. I ranked up to 17 and I still haven't seen any progress on my sig.

....

I checked my sig link and the website has my current stats but the signature hasn't updated since i added it here. I'll email the developers and ask them what's up. it should update every 24 hours.

[Konrad]

In HC I always chose the GOL, the amount of pain I dish out with the M95 is completely worth it though in regular servers, even if It doesn't hit with pin-point accuracy every time.

[MyNameDidntFit]

MNDF I noticed the stats on that sig site I linked don't update accurately so I'm going to look for another one. I ranked up to 17 and I still haven't seen any progress on my sig.
Just FYI, I think they're having a bit of technical difficulty over at that site. They've got this up there at the moment:
Signatures will start updating themselves again very soon. Sorry about the delays, and thank you for your patience.

[Rob]

Hmm my sig updated. I'm slacking and havn't been able to play for atleast a few days.

[MyNameDidntFit]

It appears they've fixed their issues. I've been too stuck in ME2 to play BC2 at the moment...

[Jason]

I've also found my interest in BF:BC2 waning. Spawncamping and mapathy have been the main offenders, methinks.

[MyNameDidntFit]

I'm just keeping my gaming fresh. I see BC2 as something I'll be playing on and off for a very long time. But for the moment I have to finish my third ME2 playthrough, finish co-op'ing through Serious Sam HD and then SC: Conviction will be out :D

[MyNameDidntFit]

Mmmmmmhmm. Been playing a bit more of this the last few days, rolling medic with 870MCS (standard shotgun) with slugs and Magnum rounds... I swear to God it is the greatest weapon known to mankind. So powerful. So accurate. So awesome.

Close range? One-hit kill at centre mass.

As for longer ranges, well, a guy was flying through the air on his quad bike just now and I headshotted him off of it from about 50m. So, yeah, it handles well at range.

Om nom nom. My next test will be the Saiga 20k with the same spec >:D





Oh! And of the new maps, I've only played one and they're keeping up the standard of map that the original maps have set.

[MyNameDidntFit]

Two things:

Firstly, OHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGODO HMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGOD

Secondly, in the latest update to this delightful piece of gaming, THEY'VE UPDATED THE SERVER BROWSER. It now has a region filter, a hardcore filter and an EA server filter... it also looks, feels and works much better. Oh God this makes me so happy as getting into a game was the worst part of this game and now it's far less painful.

[Konrad]

YAY! Exciting. This will make finding UK servers so much easier for when I game with my cousin. As for my interest, I'm not as hardcore into the game as I was but it's just as fun as ever in a few-times-a-week bursts.