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Jason
02-05-2010, 05:36 AM
In RPG games - or any other game with moral choices to make - how do you play? Are you the kind of person who would make the Pope look like a bad influence on Satan, or do you make Tommy Lee look like a little old lady?

I have to say, I'm a complete goody two-shoes on my first playthrough. I just can't help but do the 'right' thing. On subsequent playthroughs I'm a complete bastard, though. The kind of guy who helps a little old lady halfway across the street. Right into the path of an 18-wheeler.

How about you guys?

Lance
02-05-2010, 05:55 AM
Oh, ALWAYS the bad guy first - KOTOR, Fallout, Fable everything.

There's a certain perversion gotten out of helping a person out (as far as not getting "goodside" points) then blowing their brains out while they're thanking you.

And KOTOR/KOTOR II was always fun to egg your teammates on when they had arguments (Go on, Kill Each Other!)

It's not just the fun aspect of that either -the dialogue for bad guys seems far better (and comical) than for good guys (like the developers have more fun creating the bad side)

MotherGraham~
02-05-2010, 08:21 AM
There's a hard question if you ask me. In real-life, I'm like... evil. But if it comes to RPGs, I somehow seem to prefer to play as a virtuous/paragon personality first. The only games I really started out as evil, would be in Fable: The Lost Chapters, Fable II and the KotOR series.

MyNameDidntFit
02-05-2010, 10:22 AM
I choose whatever option I see as most advantageous... which tends to leave me as the bad guy. Other times it's just whatever I'm forced into (like decimating Junktown that one time because I accidentally arrived as part of a caravan at night and had my turbo plasma rifle out)...

Konrad
02-08-2010, 01:32 AM
Like MNDF, I generally tend to pick whatever is most appropriate at the time - so my characters tend to be neutral. I don't do harm for the sake of being evil (well... sometimes), but I won't turn down killing a town for profit.

KOTOR, Fallout, all of these saw the initial playthrough almost completely in the grey. It's sad however when some games discourage that type of thing... I'm looking at you ME2... Being Neutral meant being fail at ANY dialogue.

Cynical
02-15-2010, 01:50 AM
Oh, I always play the bad guy. No doubt in that!

CemeteryGates
02-16-2010, 10:48 PM
I'm neutral leaning towards good. Depends on the profit.

On later playthroughs, I get curious about the evil side.

Betty
02-16-2010, 10:58 PM
haha.. ohhh...im the good guy :p

But I will stoop to killing an innocent bystander if I get xp or an achievement out of it ^.^ hehehe.

JustaBitOutside
02-17-2010, 01:29 AM
I pay every game like I'm a saint @ first. I then go through it a second time pretty evil just to see what I missed out on, though I must say I honestly prefer being a perfect hero to anything. Love playing Mass Effect 2 where it's really easy to be in that grey area but still make things happen. I head butt who ever gets in my way, but am very gentle with those damsels in distress :naughty:

Jason
02-17-2010, 01:51 AM
One thing is quickly becoming apparent: if by some bizarre turn of events I find myself becoming a NPC in an RPG and I come across any of you guys, I'm going to hope to hell that you're on your first playthrough. :lol:

JustaBitOutside
02-17-2010, 01:58 AM
Good plan man, steer clear of me and my Rock-it Launcher come round 2!

Lance
02-17-2010, 02:37 AM
One thing is quickly becoming apparent: if by some bizarre turn of events I find myself becoming a NPC in an RPG and I come across any of you guys, I'm going to hope to hell that you're on your first playthrough. :lol:


Am I the only one that gets a kick out of playing the bad guy first :D

nilihanth
02-17-2010, 03:12 AM
Different games beg different outcomes. In Fallout I'm considered a "good" guy but my character had done some pretty evil things, by other people's perspective. Example:



******SPOILER********

I killed Amata's Father without hesitation. I knew he was off his rocker and was trying to kill my Dad and myself. When I saw him interrogating his own daughter, I immediately walked in and shot the other guard in the head with my 10mm. I waited for the Father's reponse, which was aggression so I shot him in the leg thinking that the game mechanics would consider him injured and hope that he'd be willing to talk after that (my first time through so I didn't know that the AI or scripting wouldn't allow that). Well he wasn't happy about being shot in the shin so he pulled out his gun so obviously I removed his head too. Needless to say, Amata wasn't too pleased with me.

Since then I had been mostly good, but would take advantage of certain situations that got me negative karma, like stealing from every waking soul at Tenpenny tower. So much that all the business owners left town. I also slaughtered the next overseer of vault 101 which, as far as I could tell, was my only option since he was totally jacked out of his mind. Combat shotgun to the face was my choice. Again, Amata was not happy with me even though I just saved the entire vault. I accepted my "banning" from the vault, saved the game and blew her head off and reloaded.

I also put a live grenade in Moriarity's pocket and watched him explode. He deserved that.


In KOTOR I played like a saint the whole way through, then cheated my way through playing an evil character just to see the evil ending.

MyNameDidntFit
02-17-2010, 05:49 AM
One thing is quickly becoming apparent: if by some bizarre turn of events I find myself becoming a NPC in an RPG and I come across any of you guys, I'm going to hope to hell that you're on your first playthrough. :lol:
Or if you're coming across me; have something that makes it worthwhile for me to not kill you.

Am I the only one that gets a kick out of playing the bad guy first :D
Yeah, it seems that everyone who plays fully to one side of the karma system will do Good on their first playthrough...

I'm just in it for the exp, the loot and the women... and, believe me, the ends do justify the means ;)

Konrad
02-17-2010, 06:13 AM
Am I the only one that gets a kick out of playing the bad guy first :D

Absolutely not, like I said, I generally play the neutral-bastard-when-I-have-to character, with occasional random violence.

Landy
02-17-2010, 08:53 PM
Depends on my mood. Sometime i just like to go berserk, mostly in games where the whole idea is that you are supposed to be stealthy (Hitman, Splinter Cell series). I love those games, i just hate the whole 'stealth' thing. Gun and run = more fun.

Konrad
02-17-2010, 11:34 PM
(Splinter Cell series). I love those games, i just hate the whole 'stealth' thing.

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Landy
02-18-2010, 01:09 AM
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MyNameDidntFit
02-18-2010, 06:51 AM
What he's trying to say is:

YOU'RE RUINING A BEAUTIFUL EXPERIENCE BY DOING THAT! HOW DARE YOU DESECRATE SUCH A HOLY THING YOU BLASPHEMING HERETIC!!

... at least, that's what went through my mind when you said that.

Landy
02-18-2010, 07:05 AM
Obviously, the upcoming Splinter Cell is going to let me do exactly that - not being stealthy :naughty:

Konrad
02-18-2010, 07:30 AM
What I was more precisely trying to say: Why are you even touching Splinter Cell if you don't like being stealthy? More so... how can you love a game described as "stealth-action redefined" if you hate sneaking around? How in the world do you even manage to play this game without being stealthy? Much more so... ENJOY IT. Splinter cell games generally have pretty bad and unwieldy shooting mechanics.

I was trying to express how beyond me that statement was. >_>

That's like saying I love tetris but I hate that whole falling blocks thing.

Landy
02-18-2010, 10:16 AM
I like the game environment and general gameplay, just not the 'stealth' part. It's not possible to play SC without being at least a little stealthy, but i enjoy the moments when i am allowed to shoot everything left, right and center.

You can still enjoy the hundreds of different options tetris gives you, even though you do not enjoy the falling blocks thing.

MyNameDidntFit
02-18-2010, 04:23 PM
I remain dumbstruck.

I'm attempting to get my head into your logic, so I think I'll try playing Modern Warfare 2 stealthily...

Jason
02-18-2010, 05:38 PM
I think I get what CKS is saying - he likes the setting, characters and storytelling, but prefers the more action-heavy bits to the stealthy sections. I think that particular statement probably applied more to the Hitman games than Splinter Cell, but as Splinter Cell has primarily been a stealth-based game series, I can see why Konnie and MNDF had minor apoplexies when associating the two statements. :p

In other news: playing MW2 stealthily in Hardcore mode is a shitload of fun. :D

Lance
02-18-2010, 05:51 PM
You play Hitman with stealth? That'd explain a lot

I just tend to go in and shoot everyone :)

Jason
02-18-2010, 06:23 PM
You don't have to. I quite enjoy it, mainly because I quite enjoy seeing if I can find all the sneaky ways you can kill someone without being noticed. My favourite so far was dropping the lighting rig on the Opera star in Blood Money.

MyNameDidntFit
02-19-2010, 05:10 AM
In other news: playing MW2 stealthily in Hardcore mode is a shitload of fun. :D
Let's see you stealth your way through a defence mission on Veteran! :p

Konrad
02-19-2010, 06:38 AM
I play Hitman with stealth. Kinda... I always reload if it ever comes to a shootout.

Wayne
02-19-2010, 07:56 PM
Guys seem to have gone a bit off topic.........anyway, I play as the good guy, take for instance Bioshock, I don't even know what it looks like when you fuck up one of the little sisters, I always save them........but that's just me :)