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DMZ
09-29-2011, 02:42 AM
An Iranian pastor who has refused to renounce his Christian faith faces execution as early as Wednesday after his sentence was upheld by an Iranian court.

Found some stuff..

You can protest here also. http://e-activist.com/ea-action/action?ea.client.id=88&ea.campaign.id=12209

You can also call the Iranian liaison office in the U.S. State Department at 202-647-6575.

happysister
09-29-2011, 03:07 AM
no, it's not right at all. >_< but it happens in parts of the world. makes me feel really bad cause i'm a Christian myself. on the bright side, he won't have to deal with those kinds of people much longer...

DMZ
09-29-2011, 03:19 AM
What also makes me mad WTF IS OBAMA DOING! NOTHING! This is bs. Hes not even talked about the murders against Christians in Iran from the gov.

Man, I would fight for people like him. ahhah

Its why I joined the ARMY, and also why im going to college and get in politics.

MyNameDidntFit
09-29-2011, 05:38 AM
Not to claim religious executions are right but, well, Obama isn't about start yet another ill-fated war when the American economy is failing so you're a touch off-base expecting that to happen. The US aren't the world police and I very much doubt that they could do anything that would stop Iran from following their religion.

And, when it comes down to it, there will always be religious killings that seem wrong to everyone but those of the religious group doing the killing.

DMZ
09-29-2011, 06:44 PM
The US/NATO, basically are (World Police), and ''Iran from following their religion'', its not a religion its the ideals and ethics of the people in power.

There are good people in Iran that tried to stand up but got smushed.

You not in the US are you? No? The economy is better then it was 1 year ago, stuff like that you have to be there to comprehend.

As long as some people can milk the system you wont see the numbers increase.

Archangel
09-30-2011, 02:12 AM
Yeah, ok, so the US and NATO are the world police, and they're going to rain terror upon all ne'er-do-wells and crush everyone who's not conforming to their idea on the way everything should be run. Oh wait... that's what these Iranian folks are doing. Food for thought.

And before anyone gets started, i'm not saying that the purgation of a ethnic or religious group is ok, no matter who's doing it. But the fact is that Iran is a predominantly Islamic state; hell, it's called the Islamic Republic of Iran--and about 98% of the country is Islamic. And that's the reason why every other religious group doesn't get a piece of the cake: because it is a religious issue, it's just that religion and state haven't been separated over there (which it still pretty much hasn't from the US either, though it is conceivably alot better these days; more food for thought).

So really, going over there and trying to send them back to the stone age would just be typical Westerners trying to get involved with everything they don't agree with, and interfering with things they should really just leave well enough alone.

Also, just for the record, your economy and everyone else's might be better (you're not the only ones with financial woes), but it's still not good--still trillions of dollars in debt, as I recall. War ain't gonna solve nothin' there.

All that said, I know how much everyone loves to wave their willy about, trying to convince everyone else theirs is best, but can we all keep it in our pants? This topic has the capability to go too far, so everyone just make sure you keep yourselves civil.

MyNameDidntFit
09-30-2011, 08:41 AM
Well, basically the above.

DMZ
10-01-2011, 05:46 AM
Yeah, ok, so the US and NATO are the world police, and they're going to rain terror upon all ne'er-do-wells and crush everyone who's not conforming to their idea on the way everything should be run. Oh wait... that's what these Iranian folks are doing. Food for thought.

And before anyone gets started, i'm not saying that the purgation of a ethnic or religious group is ok, no matter who's doing it. But the fact is that Iran is a predominantly Islamic state; hell, it's called the Islamic Republic of Iran--and about 98% of the country is Islamic. And that's the reason why every other religious group doesn't get a piece of the cake: because it is a religious issue, it's just that religion and state haven't been separated over there (which it still pretty much hasn't from the US either, though it is conceivably alot better these days; more food for thought).

So really, going over there and trying to send them back to the stone age would just be typical Westerners trying to get involved with everything they don't agree with, and interfering with things they should really just leave well enough alone.

Also, just for the record, your economy and everyone else's might be better (you're not the only ones with financial woes), but it's still not good--still trillions of dollars in debt, as I recall. War ain't gonna solve nothin' there.

All that said, I know how much everyone loves to wave their willy about, trying to convince everyone else theirs is best, but can we all keep it in our pants? This topic has the capability to go too far, so everyone just make sure you keep yourselves civil.

I did not want to make it political about about a war or the us in general (as some one tried to egg on), but a sociological analisis or a talk of a sad situation.

MyNameDidntFit
10-01-2011, 08:29 AM
I did not want to make it political about about a war or the us in general (as some one tried to egg on), but a sociological analisis or a talk of a sad situation.
I responded to your second post. If you didn't want to bring the US and/or politics into this, then why open a line of discussion on why the US president isn't doing anything about it?

This entire issue is politics. To be honest, there's nothing I have to say on the very heart of the matter because I don't really care--Iran are exercising their power in a very similar way to that which every other country with power does. Maybe not caring makes me a bad person in your eyes, but that's me.

Archangel
10-01-2011, 09:02 AM
... well, basically the above.

Just about every country on the planet has some form of minority/majority struggle. In the US and other Western countries, Eastern ethnic and religious groups (Islamic people, for example), get looked down on, discriminated, abused, so on, but it's perfectly fine to be Christian. In Iran, it's the same thing, just that the decks are stacked differently.

It was even exactly the same way back when in Nazi Germany. Only difference that made them really 'evil' to the rest of the world is that, well, they tried to take their views to the rest of the world. Forcibly.

Ain't a place on this world that's fair to everyone, and i'm not going to say that i'm alright with that, or that I don't care; it's a sad state of affairs that this is how the world works. But in my eyes, this is how the world works, and i'm not gonna get overly sympathetic for a single Christian pastor when the whole charade's already been done over and over again.