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Jason
11-23-2009, 05:32 PM
Yes, another week, another 'study' into how games are evil and bad and terrible and so much as picking the box up in store ranks you amongst Charlie Manson and his ilk.

This time our 'scientists' are two Swiss human rights organisations. Because apparently there aren't enough REAL abuses of human rights going on in the world, so they had the time and money to spend on something like this. No, it's OK Darfur, this is important!
The groups (Trial and Pro Juventute) played 20 games including 24: the game, Far Cry 2, Metal Gear Solid, Call of Duty 5 and Splinter Cell: Double Agent.
In them, they found that many games "allowed "protected objects" such as churches and mosques to be attacked; some depicted interrogations that involved torture or degradation and a few permitted summary executions."

Now I'm going to apologise in advance for this, because I try to remain neutral on most of my posts here, but the sheer idiocy of something like this irritates me beyond belief. I must have missed the study into all the human rights abuses Jack Bauer's carried out through seven seasons of 24, the various articles on whether damage to 'protected' buildings is proportionate in Tom Clancy's various books... it's yet ANOTHER shot at gaming because it's perceived to be an easy target because 'da kidz' like it, and anything that's enjoyed by the younger generation has GOT to be bad somewhere down the line, right?

Now, I know that 'that' level in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 has raised a lot of controversy, and I have to be honest and say I didn't particularly approve of it myself, but this is ANOTHER targeted attack on the gaming industry by a group who a) have no business commenting on this kind of thing, and b) really should be finding better and more productive ways of spending their time and money - I believe there's one or two people in China who'd probably quite like to hear from you, guys...

Anyway, spleen vented. Article here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8373794.stm).

Landy
11-23-2009, 09:42 PM
Yeah, what a surprise. Worst part of it is that it's the media that let's cunts like these get the attention they want. I could go on and rant about how i feel about the douchebags, but I honestly can't be bothered.. or at least put in a constructive way, without using to much "F" words.

Well written post Jason.

Knighto
11-26-2009, 01:59 AM
What an ignorant world that we live in..

MyNameDidntFit
11-26-2009, 09:06 AM
But, Jason, the books and TV series' don't let you do it and that makes it so much more horrible because, if you can hold down left mouse, you can surely slaughter hundreds of civilians in an airport.

Astonix
11-28-2009, 08:07 PM
Are they forgetting it's actually Adults who come up with the storyline? We only play it like they intended it to be played. So if kids do start becoming violent because of games (I hardly doubt it) surely they should be having a go at the game developers for even making the game?

Landy
11-28-2009, 09:12 PM
Some so called "Adults" forget that it's the medias own fault for focusing too much of the bad side of the games, same as they have done in the past blaming it on music and movies. I think it gives people that has serious problems with themself an excuse to go berserk. They do not see the fact that its actually the person picking up the gun that kills, not the game the person was playing.

vlbarto10
11-30-2009, 05:11 PM
I think we are all wise enough to know that the violence in each part of our worlds is not greated by games.

The gaming world is an escape, for fun just like other media. The violence has been her long before anyone was a gamer.

Too bad they dont focus on the more realistic causes. I guess those who dont do it dont get it.

That said I do think there needs to be some responsibility in the gaming community to look at the maturity of those playing the games and whether they are old enough to cognitively know the difference between real violence and entertainment.

We have all been online with those way too young to play but we are not in their home or their parents . However unfortunately we all get to hear about the violence in gaming.

Those who dont understand do not see the social networking educational benefits of being on line with those from another country or culture

Astonix
11-30-2009, 05:39 PM
Yer, games are only an entertainment and i think anyone would find it hard to find someone who doesn't see it as that.

Do these people from the media who criticise teenagers for being violent due to games not realise that we're seeing and hearing far worse things on the news because of them? So surely if they don't want us to be violent, they should scrap half the news as well.

Jason
11-30-2009, 06:13 PM
I think we are all wise enough to know that the violence in each part of our worlds is not greated by games.

The gaming world is an escape, for fun just like other media. The violence has been her long before anyone was a gamer.

Too bad they dont focus on the more realistic causes. I guess those who dont do it dont get it.

That said I do think there needs to be some responsibility in the gaming community to look at the maturity of those playing the games and whether they are old enough to cognitively know the difference between real violence and entertainment.

We have all been online with those way too young to play but we are not in their home or their parents . However unfortunately we all get to hear about the violence in gaming.

Those who dont understand do not see the social networking educational benefits of being on line with those from another country or culture

Wow - good call sir, good call. +rep

MyNameDidntFit
12-01-2009, 02:09 AM
Do these people from the media who criticise teenagers for being violent due to games not realise that we're seeing and hearing far worse things on the news because of them?
I'm sure they do. But, well, ratings.